What led to the collapse of McCarthys speakership and whats next for the House

Lisa Desjardins:

As I said, the math is an issue. It's just a slim five-vote majority that the Republicans have.

But that said, others, Democrats, have been able to govern with that. Let's — I really thought about, what is underneath this? So let's look at the list. First of all, as you heard in the tape from today, spending, that is driving a lot of these conservatives.

They feel like Kevin McCarthy has not gone far enough to cut spending, but also, underneath all of this, Geoff, is a clear distrust of Kevin McCarthy. His relationships, his lack of relationships is really hurting him right now. But, in addition to that, there's some other factors.

One of those, when you think about it, is the push for partisanship. Some of those who wanted him out think that Kevin McCarthy should not have tried to work with Democrats to keep government open. That's a factor in our government beyond Kevin McCarthy, and he's being punished for it right now.

The last thing I will say is, President Trump, who himself did call for a government shutdown, he has been someone who has really injected into the Republican Party the idea that not only is disruption safe, but it is good. He has encouraged conservatives like this to try and challenge institutions, including the head of the institution of the House of Representatives itself.

One other thing. Democrats, they had the option of saving Speaker McCarthy today, but, also, it comes down to relationships. They said that he has attacked them, lied about them. They came out of their meeting this morning, Geoff, very hot, saying: No way are we going to save him.

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